Episode #538: In the Octagon — Eighth interview with Joe Woodard

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What do David Allen's Getting Things Done, Daniel Susskind's A World Without Work, and AppleTV's Severence have in common? They are all on the mind of Ron and Ed's Guest for this episode, Joe Woodard. This will be Joe's record-extending EIGHTH appearance on T$oE. He is always an audience favorite. So buckle up! As always it will be a fast-paced wide-ranging conversation with him.

SHOW NOTES

Segment one

  • At the Woodard Conference this year, we have no other than DAVID ALLEN of Getting Things Done. Unlike any book on productivity, David Allen is focused on prioritization largely through elimination 

  • “You should never have a thought twice unless you enjoy having that thought” —David Allen

  • Declaring email bankruptcy is something that David Allen addresses is his book, Getting Things Done.

  • I’ve got to be honest, I’m having a hard time keeping up with Joe Woodard and his dive into Getting Things Done by David Allen

Segment two

  • Ron mentioned this book in segment two: Daniele Sussskind, A World Without Work https://www.amazon.com/World-Without-Work-Technology-Automation/dp/1250173515 

  • Not to push you in a direction but this is great. Your thoughts? “Work without work is defined in the service of humanity”

  • “Moving to the transformation economy is where we are going to head next.” —Ron Baker

  • Regarding AI, “No, it does not have a soul.” —Joe Woodard

Segment three

  • The answer to, “How do I find a job?” You figure out a way to serve your fellow man. —Ed Kless

  • In the future: “We’re going to see some better version of humanity. But I don’t think that humanity will be doing what we currently call work.” —Joe Woodard

  • Ed calls it future glee. What do you think? Are you a techno-optimist and excited about the future?

  • “Whenever you have so much food, so much shelter, so much supply, so much wealth that everybody gets it and the power that can’t hide it. In a good way, in a Gene Roddenberry way.”

Segment four

  • “I believe that ideal clients aren’t ideal because of their industry or some other characteristic. I think they are ideal because of how they think.” —Ron Baker

  • “Rich is in the niches.” —probably not a Joe Woodard quote but he gets credit today on The Soul of Enterprise

  • A big THANK YOU to Joe Woodard for joining us today. Are you joining us at Scaling New Heights? I will be there! https://www.woodard.com/scaling-new-heights-2025 

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